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Texan Scots

Hi,

Not sure what i can do from here in the USA. My husband is an ex Black Watch. My  great grandfather, grandfather,  great uncles, and brother and many cousins have all served with various Scottish Regiments from the 1st & 2nd world wars, to Iraq and NI. I am disgusted at the way our Regiments have been treated by Geoff Hoon, and Jackson should be ashamed of himself. Why is it if they want a job done they send in the Jocks?

Shame on Blair, Brown and McConnell. If we don't stand up against this we will loose so much of ourselves. Show our prided in our men and women and wear our Saltires and kilts with pride. Play the pipes at every ministers door, shame on them!!  

 

The Chalmers
Proud Scots living in Texas!


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Brother in Black Watch

My elder brother served as an officer in the Black Watch, shortly after the Second World War, and later was a major in the Black Watch T.A.   My late motherís elder brother (who would have been my Uncle) was killed in the Battle of Poziere Ridge (the Somme) on 30 July 1916 a fortnight before his 21 birthday. He was a young 2nd Lieutenant in the Black Watch.

The Regiment has roots in all Tayside, and I am concerned to notice in the Dundee Courier that it is only the SNP politicians who are making comments about the disgraceful proposal to cut the remaining few Scottish Regiments, and in particular the Black Watch. What has happened to Dundee politiciansí support for the Black Watch?

Robert D Bruce


 
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Dedication of the Jocks

I have recently left the 1st Battalion The Royal Highland Fusiliers after 22 Years service.

I read Michael Jacksons comments about Scottish regiments and hark back to a visit he paid to our regiment when we were involved in developing the mountain warfare role.  He said at the time he was impressed with the ingenuity and dedication of the "Jocks" and expected nothing less from a Scottish Regiment. 

A far cry from his disparaging comments, especially since the other two "English " regiments detailed with the same role had done nothing to expand the role or even train their soldiers. He seems to forget that in the first Gulf war the bulk of the infantry involved was overwhelming Scottish not to mention the other Jocks serving with other regiments and Corps.  No change in the 2nd Gulf war with the Watch, Argyles,KOSB and 1 RHF being involved in Iraq.

In order to save money why don't we cut back on some of these generals who love to lord it over their "train sets" and who never seem to be affected by these cutbacks. Or why not cut back on the number of MP's that would be a popular vote for everyone in the country.

Tom Murray 

NEMO NOS IMPUNE LACESSET 


 
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God help the infantry

The problem with the manning levels in our Scottish regiments is not caused  by an inability to recruit but a failure to retain soldiers once they are in.  Reasons ? 

A.    Ridiculous overstretch of tours of duty.  My old Regiment, The Royal Scots, spent Christmas 2002 in Bosnia, Christmas 2003 in Basra and are now once again on standby for Basra this autumn.  The Army nowadays contains more young married men than ever and it is absolutely understandable that this level of separation  does nothing to encourage prolongation of service. 

B.   Pay, allowances and pensions are a disgrace. In spite of the so called 'X Factor', supposedly designed to take into consideration the hardship and turmoil of Service life, and purported to be taken into consideration by the Armed Forces Pay Review Board is either ignored or drastically undervalued.

C. The Euro Fighter which has cost the public God knows how many billions of pounds is still not with us, nor likely to be, for years to come - toss it on the scrap heap now  - buy American and with the money saved keep the Scottish Division.  When will the Chairborne Div in Whitehall learn that hightec equipment is all very well in its place but in today's troubled world what is needed is the good old infantryman with his great feet on the ground dispensing good humour and sanity in tricky situations and nobody does it better than the Jock !

D.  The Chancellor of the Exchequer needs make a drastic re assessment of his fund allocation or we will find ourselves without a viable Army at all .  We will certainly not be able to count on the TA to make up numbers because they are becoming increasingly disenchanted.

In closing, I read with interest that Gen Mike Jackson has stated that if required he would be able to furnish a 5,000 man Brigade for service in Sudan. If he does God help the infantry !!!


Old Soldier (Royal Scot 1952-1979)


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Whitehall exploitation

This is another example of Whitehall's exploitation of the superb Scottish regiments. One has to only recall the sacrifice of these regiments (often while their families were thrown off their lands back home) to realize that this is just another racially-motivated idea. Remember the phrase "No great mischief if they fall"?:a previous English Government official was showing the same contempt for the Scots that we read from General Jackson.

The effect on tourism alone should give Whitehall pause, not to mention the moral debt Great Britain owes these regiments.---------------------

CDR.Jonathan Raines,USN (Black Watch descendent)


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I am delighted to find this website already up and running

in this the fight by our Scottish regiments for survival. I have posted your Internet address on my Regimental web-site and trust this will lead to your being visited by many Borderers.

Make no mistake we will have to be as ruthless as our political masters to defeat this evil they are attempting tp perpetrate upon us and the earlier we get started in taking the fight to them the better our chances of success.

Reading the utterances of Gen M Jackson it is obvious that there will be little resistance if any to the decimation proposed but then given his parent Regiment he will have little understanding of the importance of the Regimental Family and the esprit de corps it engenders.

I have asked those Borderers who read my entry to start NOW and advise their MP's / MEP's and MSP's that they will will pay for their lack of support  come the time of their re-election or should I say attempted re-election ? - nothing concentrates the mind of to-day's politician quite so intensely and clearly than the prospect of having to get off the Gravy Train at the next stop!. I wish you all good fortune and I will return often to this site.   

I think its a disgrace the way Scotland has been treated by both the politicians and the general who has danced the government tune.The regiments do not need to suffer this onslaught if we the public pull together and let these politicians see how passionate we are for our famous regiments.I have e-mailed Nicholas Soames and Alec Salmond,also I have e-mailed David Mcletchie and the Prime Minister and a few others,and so far I have received only one written reply and that was from Alex Salmond,he genuinely cares about our Scottish troops and he has promised me that he and his msp's will do their utmost to fight our corner.I suggest we should also write or e-mail our regimental Colonel-in Chiefs,we should bring them into the fray and drum up their support also.If the late Queen Mother.(God Bless her)!  were alive I am sure she would do her utmost to save her regiment as she had so done  before As for Sir General Jackson's comments about Fijian troops serving with our regiments,he clearly does not like the idea,I am sure it says a lot for Fiji when they send her soldiers to join our regiments,  they can see there is no better regiment than a Scottish one.Is General Jackson's remarks racist? It is also very unbecoming of a General who sends troops in to battle to refer to any regiment which is not paratroops as "crap hats," after all while he is drinking his "g and t" his troops are putting their lives on the line.When he met the Black Watch is this what he thought of them? I think the man should be replaced by an infantry commander who understands all about the counties and the system of local regimental recruiting drives that take place and in particular the tradition of father followed by son into famous regiments and the generations of the same families who have worn their local regimental cap badges with pride. Andy. 

Andy


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Signing Petition

When I opened the paper today and read about this, I remembered our Airborne Regiment here in Canada. I have signed your petition in the hopes that the British Gov't will see that not only are they getting rid of History on the Great Island but also destroying History across the globe. We are very affected by this decision here in Canada, As our close ties with the Highland Regiments is deep. I will tell all my mates to sign this petition as well.

Dave Elley
Vancouver BC Canada

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Canadian support


As a Canadian military retiree, I am appalled at the Hoon decision. The British military, and Scots regiments in particular, have suffered more than enough cuts in recent years, and I can only think that Hoon was advised by the part of his anatomy upon which he sits. I know what happened 40 years ago when Canada "unified" the three services, and destroyed all the army Corps as well as dropping the "Royal" prefix from the air force and navy. It was, I believe, only through vigorous lobbying by the Royal Canadian Legion that the regimental system was saved. Also, an an anglo-scot, more Scot than anglo, I don't want to be ashamed of half my heritage. From what I see on the Scottish news, MoD would be well advised to dump 50% of the civil service and all the top priced bureaucrats who outnumber the troops. Think of the savings there. You need all the help you can get insofar as men and equipment goes, but the politicos seem to have forgotten the fact that ground troops are always needed, with and without sophisticated weapons. I can only offer my best wishes in your venture, and should I see a petition while in Scotland for the Tattoo on 9 Aug, you can be assured of at least one unhappy Canadan signature. You will note below that I still refuse to recognize the Canadian Forces Medical Service, which replaced my Corps.

Robert S Berry RCAMC (Ret'd)
Huntsville
ON Canada

 
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I'm utterly disgusted that this government dares to even suggest cutting more Scottish regiments. It's time for every Jock to stand up and be counted.

D Montague.
Dundee


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My son is in Iraq with the Black Watch for the second time, it's a disgrace that they are even considering cutting our forces when our young men are putting their lives at risk for Tony Blair's war. How do you think the boys in the Black Watch are feeling knowing they may be for the chop, pretty low I bet.

A concerned mother

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Dear Mr. Duncan,

As an American of Scottish descent, I wanted to write and tell you that many of us here in the States are behind you 100%! We are outraged and saddened at how these brave men & women are being treated by the Blair government. All Americans should heed the words of the regimental history of the Black Watch about the American Revolution: We can boast no Battle Honours for our part in the American War of Independence, because it was rightly decreed that Battle Honours should not be granted for a war with our kith and kin. My grandfather served in India and Burma during the Second World War, and always spoke very highly of the Scots he served with against the Japanese. He always loved to attend concerts of various regimental pipes & drums whenever they went on a North American tour, but the Black Watch were his favourite. We're behind you and the Regiments --

"Wha daur meddle wi' me!"

Kind Regards,
T.J. Wilkinson Missouri, USA

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Stupid cuts!

We read that civil servants employed by the MOD exceed the total of soldiers. If this is the case why not make some of them redundant and make the remainder more efficient ? Could it be that the civil servants belong to a union and are able to go on strike whereas the soldier is trained to obey orders ?

These totally stupid cuts remind me of these lines from Kipling :-

"Oh its Tommy this and Tommy that and kick him in the gutter. But its Tommy the bloomin' hero when the guns begin to stutter"

Peter James.

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Proud Yank! 

I am proudly a yank and a US Army vet. I served in an army that lacked tradition, esprit de corps and a common shared sense of purpose. We were not much more than underpaid and expendable temporary employees. The Brits in general and the Scots in particular have all the advantages that most of the US Military lacks( exception the Marines) is trying to institute by policy. It took 300+ years of history to get where you are , careful of what you toss away for a shot term savings.

Bob Otis - USA


 
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How dare he!

The Statement by General Jackson is insulting. This from a man who said at the beginning of the Iraq War that our soldiers were fully equipped to fight, and there were no equipment failures. When our troops were writing home, begging for food, he said they were Pansies. We now know, that our troops were not well equipped, and had to face the insulting nickname Borrowers, couple that to the fact our troops looked like the aftermath of a massive Slim Fast diet due to the lack of food!
Soldiers died because there were no breast Plates for their Vests, Soldiers were maimed due to the lack of medical equipment being sent from the UK. Despite this, our Troops Fought like Trojans, while General Jackson sat back in the comfort of Brigade Headquarters.

How dare he cast dispersion towards our Regiments!

Jan Milligan


 
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Dear All,

As a former soldier and having an attachment with the 6TH QUEENS OWN GURKHR RIFLES with 48 Brigade (Gurkhas) in Hong Kong for a year, I lend my humble support to save the Scotish Regiment and keep it in the British ORBAT for the future.

All the Best,

SL RABUKA MAJ GEN (RET'D)
FORMER COMMANDER FIJI ARMY /
FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF FIJI

 
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Do NOT cut

I cannot believe that the venerable Scottish Regiments will disappear at the stroke of a pen. After hundreds of years of protecting Great Britain and her Commonwealth, what do these city politicians not understand. The Black Watch stands for what Great Britain is all about or has Tony Blair fallen into George Bush's spell as well? My great-grandfather was with the 9th battalion of the Royal Scots, his son was with the 13th Battalion of the black watch in both World Wars serving for Canada, if he had been in Scotland he would have signed up there.
The Highlanders saved Great Britain on too many occasions, why keep the Ghurkhas instead of a home based regiment?
Cut politicians salaries or Prince Charles' but DO NOT CUT DOWN the men of the Highland Regiments.

It will come back to haunt you.

Rod Hodgson, Rigaud,
Quebec, Canada.


 
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Don't let you Gov get rid of anything like in Canada did our military is in the pots here political people don't know any thing about military history or how to run it we lost our airborne over a few bad eggs .all that history is gone. now its hard to get anyone to enlist. they even got rid of a lot of our military bands.

Cpl Hub Lalonde  Princes Patrices
Canadian light infantry
Korea 1950 to 1952 member
Pat Asso.


 
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Help

I have very little free time but I would like to do what I can for this campaign.
My brother, uncle and Grandad were in the Black Watch and I have been "wife of" for 15 years!

Whatever I can do let me know.

Morag Maich


 
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Back to haunt you

I cannot believe that the venerable Scottish Regiments will disappear at the stroke of a pen. After hundreds of years of protecting Great Britain and her Commonwealth, what do these city politicians not understand. The Black Watch stands for what Great Britain is all about or has Tony Blair fallen into George Bush's spell as well?

My great-grandfather was with the 9th battalion of the Royal Scots, his son was with the 13th Battalion of the black watch in both World Wars serving for Canada, if he had been in Scotland he would have signed up there. The Highlanders saved Great Britain on too many occasions, why keep the Ghurkas instead of a home based regiment? Cut politicians salaries or Prince Charles' but DO NOT CUT DOWN the men of the Highland Regiments. It will come back to haunt you.

Rod Hodgson, Rigaud, Quebec, Canada.


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Make MOD redundant!

We read that civil servants employed by the MOD exceed the total of soldiers. If this is the case why not make some of them redundant and make the remainder more efficient ?

Could it be that the civil servants belong to a union and are able to go on strike whereas the soldier is trained to obey orders ? These totally stupid cuts remind me of these lines from Kipling :-

"Oh its Tommy this and Tommy that and kick him in the gutter.

But its Tommy the bloomin' hero when the guns begin to stutter"

Peter James.


 
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Ex-KOSB

As an ex KOSB.  I am absolutely dismayed that this government can sink so low as to even think about cuts while our boys are doing the governments dirty work in Iraq Blair and Hoon should both resign but we know they think they are right only when the terrorists hit us when we have no defence will the truth dawn but by then it will all be to late Blair will have slunk off and Hoon will not be far behind WITHDRAW YOUR SUPPORT FROM THE LABOUR  PARTY and vote for the party who will defend this noble land.

Kevin Broomhall 

 
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Admired until you get to Whitehall

As the proportion of our urban society that has ever served in the uniformed services grows smaller and smaller the public's understanding of and gratitude to the Highland Regiments diminishes.

For too long Scottish blood, money, and oil has flowed South to prop up an unappreciative government and people. Let's keep all three at home and let the world's capitalist pay the full market value to the people of Scotland for their contribution to the english speaking empire

Scots are admired around the world until you get to Whitehall. There you find policies, laws, and attitudes dating back to Edward I, designed to keep the honest and hard working folk of Scotland under control. Sadly these practises have, thanks to the two 'unions', thoroughly infiltrated even local councils.

Just like in 1707, the bureaucrats and money changers will have a multitude of reasons (mostly their own pockets) as to why the Scots should do what London says. Well I say it is time we Scots stood up and told the snivelling, money grubbing cowards where to get off.

Yes! Let's keep the Highland Regiments and let's keep them tae hame.

Russell MacLeod Middleton, AB
Flat 4A Room 3

Union Street

STIRLING
FK8 1NZ
Scotland


 
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Recruitment problem?  What recruitment problem?

I have found out that the recruitment in Scotland is at its best at the moment and the recruitment offices have been tolled to hold back on getting new people in the door if this is true what is the government on . i did 23 years in the black watch they say its for new equipment but they need people to use the gear what happens when some enemy attacks the UK?

What will the government say then?????????????

M Kelly


 
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Good Luck!

I was a in the Black Watch RHR for 23 years and i hope you save the 6 that are left .

good luck
-
Anon


 
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History, tradition and regiment

I reside in the US and I am a member of the International military music society, US branch.  I have always loved the history, traditions and music of the Scottish regiments.  I have seen every USA tour of Scots regiments since i was a lad.  I would hate to see them thrown together into some bland super regiment.  Since i reside in the States, is there anything i might do to help your campaign?

Sincerely, 

Roger T. Kennedy


 
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Why are we keeping 2 Bt of Ghurkha soldiers and a Gibraltar regiment, get rid of them and save at least three British regiments.

Regards

Mike Owsley MBE


 
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The Statement by General Jackson is insulting. 

This from a man who said at the beginning of the Iraq War that our soldiers were fully equipped to fight, and there were no equipment failures. When our troops were writing home, begging for food, he said they were Pansies. 

We now know, that our troops were not well equipped, and had to face the insulting nickname Borrowers, couple that to the fact our troops looked like the aftermath of a massive Slim Fast diet due to the lack of food!

Soldiers died because there were no breast Plates for their Vests, Soldiers were maimed due to the lack of medical equipment being sent from the UK. Despite this, our Troops Fought like Trojans, while General Jackson sat back in the comfort of Brigade Headquarters. 

How dare he cast dispersion towards our Regiments! 

Jan Milligan


 
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Dear Loyal Scots:

The sterile technocrats who sniff at things like regimental traditions as sentimental irrelevancies need to consult the sociological research on soldiers in battle. Comradeship and unit traditions are motivators and force multipliers. By the time each old-line Scottish regiment has been reduced to a single infantryman in the 217th EU Consolidated Application of Just Enough Nuanced Threat of Bodily Harm Brigade, it will be too late to save the power of regimental tradition. Good luck to your campaign.

Clark Irwin
Cumberland Foreside, Maine, USA


 
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Traditions being Destroyed

I am totally disgusted with the treatment being handed out to the Scottish regiments by a so called government. They seem to think that anything north of Carlisle doesn't matter. As we all know the proudest regiments in the world are Scottish. Regardless of which regiment the pen pushers stitch up it will be a very sad day.

Eddie Fox (ex KOSB Signals)


 
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I support your effort wholeheartedly! Bravo to you from America! My granddad was from the UK and the men of our family served in the long ago past in the Gordons and in WWI in the Argylls. God bless the Scottish regiments!

Donna Ozenne
Bakersfield, CA. USA